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	<title>Comments on: blogging circa 19th century, writing for the web circa 1992</title>
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		<title>By: kenspeckle &#187; the Russian blogging saga continues&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>kenspeckle &#187; the Russian blogging saga continues&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So AxcessNews ran an article last week on Vladimir Odoevsky&#039;s 19th-century take on blogging and referenced my post on the subject from last month. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So AxcessNews ran an article last week on Vladimir Odoevsky's 19th-century take on blogging and referenced my post on the subject from last month. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;anachronistic translation maybe?&lt;/strong&gt;

TSI, good point about the anachronism. That could very well point to a hoax, but it could also be an anachronistic translation -- like I mentioned in my post, we still have no idea where MosNews and ralphmag.org got their English rendering from, and it\\\&#039;s possible that there\\\&#039;s some confusion in Russian between the electrical and optical telegraph [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph] -- considering that an optical telegraphs would have likely been in use during Odoevsky\\\&#039;s time. I encountered a similar anachronistic translation of Russian to English while reading Dostoeveky\\\&#039;s Notes From Underground. In one text there was the phrase \\\&quot;I am a retort made man\\\&quot; and in another the same phrase was rendered \\\&quot;I am a test-tube made man.\\\&quot; No clue why. Test tubes existed in 1864, of course, but the idea of being a test-tube made man wouldn\\\&#039;t have made sense the way it does today -- at least I don\\\&#039;t think so. Maybe if some of my Russian visitors return they\\\&#039;ll give us some insight into the translation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>anachronistic translation maybe?</strong></p>
<p>TSI, good point about the anachronism. That could very well point to a hoax, but it could also be an anachronistic translation &#8212; like I mentioned in my post, we still have no idea where MosNews and ralphmag.org got their English rendering from, and it\\\'s possible that there\\\'s some confusion in Russian between the electrical and optical telegraph [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph] &#8212; considering that an optical telegraphs would have likely been in use during Odoevsky\\\'s time. I encountered a similar anachronistic translation of Russian to English while reading Dostoeveky\\\'s Notes From Underground. In one text there was the phrase \\\"I am a retort made man\\\" and in another the same phrase was rendered \\\"I am a test-tube made man.\\\" No clue why. Test tubes existed in 1864, of course, but the idea of being a test-tube made man wouldn\\\'t have made sense the way it does today &#8212; at least I don\\\'t think so. Maybe if some of my Russian visitors return they\\\'ll give us some insight into the translation.</p>
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		<title>By: ssr</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>ssr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dostoevsky&lt;/strong&gt;

\&quot;Retort\&quot; is an older form of \&quot;test-tube\&quot; and your guessing is right that it\&#039;s all about anachronisms. In the book there are talks about an artifically made man - out of a \&quot;retort\&quot; which is a that-time equivalent for test-tube (you can also consult Oxford dictionary on this - http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/retort_2?view=uk - note the \&quot;historical\&quot; meaning)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dostoevsky</strong></p>
<p>\"Retort\" is an older form of \"test-tube\" and your guessing is right that it\'s all about anachronisms. In the book there are talks about an artifically made man &#8211; out of a \"retort\" which is a that-time equivalent for test-tube (you can also consult Oxford dictionary on this &#8211; <a href="http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/retort_2?view=uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/retort_2?view=uk</a> &#8211; note the \"historical\" meaning)</p>
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		<title>By: ssr</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>ssr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ð­Ð¢Ðž&lt;/strong&gt;

\&quot;Ð­Ñ‚Ð¾\&quot; more likely means \&quot;this\&quot; in this case - I used _it_ because the original URL was too long and would stretch the journal design enormously. In other cases as you may had noticed I just pasted URLs into the journal post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ð­Ð¢Ðž</strong></p>
<p>\"Ð­Ñ‚Ð¾\" more likely means \"this\" in this case &#8211; I used _it_ because the original URL was too long and would stretch the journal design enormously. In other cases as you may had noticed I just pasted URLs into the journal post.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sanity Inspector</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sanity Inspector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds hoax-y to me. \&quot;Magnetic telegraphs\&quot;? Real telegraphs were invented the same year this book was supposedly written, but not put into use until 1839, according to Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds hoax-y to me. \"Magnetic telegraphs\"? Real telegraphs were invented the same year this book was supposedly written, but not put into use until 1839, according to Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: ssr</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>ssr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, here\&#039;s the link: http://lenta.ru/news/2005/10/03/odoevsky/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, here\'s the link: <a href="http://lenta.ru/news/2005/10/03/odoevsky/" rel="nofollow">http://lenta.ru/news/2005/10/03/odoevsky/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ssr</title>
		<link>http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2005/10/11/vladimir-odoevsky-predicts-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>ssr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MosNews took it from the Lenta.Ru Russian language article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MosNews took it from the Lenta.Ru Russian language article</p>
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